Treebalance - Speech Tree
⚪ Last updated 2018⚠️ Install Order · 5 steps
Install in this order, then this mod last — most mods fail to load without their framework and dependencies in place.
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🔍 Analysis
- 👍 5.9% endorsement rate — high engagement, a strong quality signal
- 🏆 #113 of 136 Gameplay mods in this game by downloads
📋 About This Mod
In the base game, Speech is a poor skill and its perk tree isn't much better. With this mod, Speech becomes a powerful skill with a well-designed and useful perk tree. This mod adds new systems to allow players to choose to not kill people.
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- []The tree was reorganized with prerequisites that actually make sense (plus it actually follows the constellation now). The criminal perks (Bribe and Fence) are separated on the left, the salesman perks (Allure, Merchant, Investor, Master Trader) are in the middle, and the speaking perks (Persuasion, Intimidate) are on the right. No longer are these three groups mixed around.
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- []Allure's effect was doubled from 10% to 20% because it was so unimpressive.
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- []Exile: either beat an opponent to bleeding out status and accept their yield, or simply yield with the Recompense perk. Acceptable targets (non-essential) will glow for three minutes. During this time, talk to them and choose Exile. They will disappear, leaving behind a knapsack of their inventory. Exiling will count as killing for quests, but will not increase your "people killed" count. Credit for the idea goes to Androl's Pacify Overhaul, but this mod does not use any of those scripts or methods.
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Treebalance - Speech Tree is a gameplay mod for Skyrim that reworks the Speech perk tree to be more logical and practical. With 326 endorsements and over 5,500 downloads, it's a community-approved tweak for players who find the vanilla Speech perks underwhelming. Last updated in 2018, it remains a stable choice for those seeking a better Speech experience.
✨ Key Features
📊 Pros & Cons
✅ Pros
- Community-approved with 326 endorsements—players clearly like what it does.
- Over 5,500 downloads shows it's been tried by a decent chunk of the community.
- Targeted fix: if you hate the vanilla Speech tree, this directly addresses that.
⚠️ Cons
- Last updated in 2018, so it might not be compatible with the latest Skyrim versions or other mods that alter perk trees.
- Only touches the Speech tree—if you want broader perk overhauls, this won't cover other skills.
- Potential conflicts with other perk overhaul mods like Ordinator or Vokrii, so check your load order.
For Skyrim players who find the vanilla Speech perks useless and want a more practical tree without a full overhaul. If you're running a thief or bard character, this could make Speech actually worth investing in. Skip if you already use a comprehensive perk overhaul that rebalances Speech.
💡 Beginner Tips
- If you're using a mod manager like Vortex or Mod Organizer 2, just download and install—no extra steps needed.
- Since this mod edits the perk tree, place it after any other perk overhauls in your load order to avoid conflicts.
- Check the mod's page for any patches if you're using popular perk mods like Ordinator—they might be required.
📊 Mod Details
- Game
- Skyrim Mods
- Author
- Keukotis
- Version
- 1.01
- Downloads
- 5,503
- Endorsements
- 326
- Category
- Gameplay
- Created
- 11/2/2016
- Updated
- 7/1/2018
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