Treebalance - Speech Tree

⭐ ⭐ (326 endorsements) 📥 5,503 downloads 📌 v1.01 📅 11/2/2016
⚪ Last updated 2018

By Keukotis · Gameplay

⬇ Download Mod Source: Nexus Mods ↗ 📅 Updated: 7/1/2018 📅 Created: 11/2/2016
⚠️ Install Order · 5 steps
1🛠️ SKSE64 — Skyrim Script Extender 64 Download ↗
2🔧 USSEP — Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch Download ↗
3🖥️ SkyUI — SkyUI (MCM framework) Download ↗
4🧩 Address Library — Address Library for SKSE Plugins Download ↗
5🔧 SSE Engine Fixes — SSE Engine Fixes Download ↗

Install in this order, then this mod last — most mods fail to load without their framework and dependencies in place.

🔍 Analysis

  • 👍 5.9% endorsement rate — high engagement, a strong quality signal
  • 🏆 #113 of 136 Gameplay mods in this game by downloads

📋 About This Mod

In the base game, Speech is a poor skill and its perk tree isn't much better. With this mod, Speech becomes a powerful skill with a well-designed and useful perk tree. This mod adds new systems to allow players to choose to not kill people.

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  • []The tree was reorganized with prerequisites that actually make sense (plus it actually follows the constellation now). The criminal perks (Bribe and Fence) are separated on the left, the salesman perks (Allure, Merchant, Investor, Master Trader) are in the middle, and the speaking perks (Persuasion, Intimidate) are on the right. No longer are these three groups mixed around.
    • []Skill requirements were dropped on some things. Persuasion and Intimidate used to require such high Speech values that they weren't useful by the time you qualified, so I've dropped Persuasion to 20 and Intimidate to 40. Fence was dropped to 50 and Bribe to 25 to make them available earlier, and Fence's description no longer mentions an Investment requirement (both because Investor isn't its prerequisite anymore and because investing was never required to activate the sale of stolen items).
      • []Allure's effect was doubled from 10% to 20% because it was so unimpressive.
        • []A brand new yielding system exists for using Speech in combat. This doesn't require spending a perk; it's just something you can do now. While you are blocking, casting a spell, or aiming a bow or crossbow, activate a hostile NPC to attempt a yield. The screen will flash green to let you know a yield has been attempted. After a short five second delay, you either succeed or fail based on your Speech skill, the target's level, and the target's remaining health percentage. Success costs gold and awards Speech experience based on how difficult the opponent was, and the target becomes non-hostile. If you fail, you can try again 20 seconds after your attempt. This was carefully balanced in cost, reward, and success chance for you as you scale through levels. This system was designed so that Speech can be used as a combat skill, so don't just use it when you can't win a fight. For a small gold cost it can potentially end fights very quickly. Players who wish for a pacifist character will especially love this mod.
          • []Exile: either beat an opponent to bleeding out status and accept their yield, or simply yield with the Recompense perk. Acceptable targets (non-essential) will glow for three minutes. During this time, talk to them and choose Exile. They will disappear, leaving behind a knapsack of their inventory. Exiling will count as killing for quests, but will not increase your "people killed" count. Credit for the idea goes to Androl's Pacify Overhaul, but this mod does not use any of those scripts or methods.

            []Persuasion

🤖 AI-enhanced — based on mod data

Treebalance - Speech Tree is a gameplay mod for Skyrim that reworks the Speech perk tree to be more logical and practical. With 326 endorsements and over 5,500 downloads, it's a community-approved tweak for players who find the vanilla Speech perks underwhelming. Last updated in 2018, it remains a stable choice for those seeking a better Speech experience.

✨ Key Features

Improves the Speech perk tree to make it more coherent and useful.
Reworks perks to provide practical benefits for speech-related gameplay.
Lightweight gameplay mod focused solely on the Speech tree.
Community-tested with 326 endorsements and 5,503 downloads.

📊 Pros & Cons

✅ Pros

  • Community-approved with 326 endorsements—players clearly like what it does.
  • Over 5,500 downloads shows it's been tried by a decent chunk of the community.
  • Targeted fix: if you hate the vanilla Speech tree, this directly addresses that.

⚠️ Cons

  • Last updated in 2018, so it might not be compatible with the latest Skyrim versions or other mods that alter perk trees.
  • Only touches the Speech tree—if you want broader perk overhauls, this won't cover other skills.
  • Potential conflicts with other perk overhaul mods like Ordinator or Vokrii, so check your load order.
🎯 Is This For You?
For Skyrim players who find the vanilla Speech perks useless and want a more practical tree without a full overhaul. If you're running a thief or bard character, this could make Speech actually worth investing in. Skip if you already use a comprehensive perk overhaul that rebalances Speech.
📦 Install:Easy· Under 1 minute

💡 Beginner Tips

  • If you're using a mod manager like Vortex or Mod Organizer 2, just download and install—no extra steps needed.
  • Since this mod edits the perk tree, place it after any other perk overhauls in your load order to avoid conflicts.
  • Check the mod's page for any patches if you're using popular perk mods like Ordinator—they might be required.

📊 Mod Details

Game
Skyrim Mods
Author
Keukotis
Version
1.01
Downloads
5,503
Endorsements
326
Category
Gameplay
Created
11/2/2016
Updated
7/1/2018

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