There Is No (CC) Umbra
⚪ Last updated 2023⚠️ Install Order · 5 steps
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🔍 Analysis
- 👍 0.2% endorsement rate
- 🏆 #62 of 73 Quests and Adventures mods in this game by downloads
📋 About This Mod
Requires There Is No Umbra as well as the Umbra Creation!
There Is No Umbra is an incredible mod, and I think many would agree with me - even being the ardent supporter of the Creation Club that I am - that the content included in There Is No Umbra is superior to that of the Umbra Creation's. The Creation is fantastic, too - I thought it had a good dungeon and a very enjoyable boss fight. However, if I had to pick a "true" Umbra in Skyrim story? I think I would have to go with There Is No Umbra every time.FableForge (author of There Is No Umbra) was asked about addressing the issue of "two Umbras" once a while back - here was their response:
"I thought about it, but then I asked myself how would I feel if the other author did that same patch against me? I think he is the creator of Interesting NPCs, too. So yeah, no. I don't want to mess with how other authors tell their version of the Umbra story -let each player resolve it in head-canon, or let someone else make a patch, I just don't want to be disrespectful :)"
So I've decided to be that someone else.
And I cannot stress this enough: this mod means no disrespect to either the authors of either There Is No Umbra or the Creation itself - when I set out to make this, I wanted to make it in such a way that it would preserve as much from the Creation as possible. I completely understand where FableForge is coming from and I do agree, a player's headcanon is good enough - and that's basically exactly what this patch is, a headcanon given form.
I made this because having two Umbras bothered me. A few months ago, I had actually decided to leave There Is No Umbra out of my modlist because of it. Silly, to be sure, but that's just how I am - I typically follow a "hierarchy of canon". Vanilla Game -> Creation Club -> Mods. But a mod as good as There Is No Umbra gives me pause. I made this for myself in order to give both the Creation and the mod a place within "my" Skyrim.
So what exactly does this patch do?
Changes to Creation Club's Umbra
The Creation Club Umbra has been renamed to Penumbra. All references to it in the Creation itself have been renamed accordingly. Certain aspects such as the quest log outright calling it a Daedric Artifact have been changed as well - this new blade is an unknown altogether and is referred to as such. With the Creation providing few opportunities to explore for answers as to Penumbra's origin and nature, it will remain just that for now - a mystery.
Stats and abilities are unchanged. I feel that any changes or weakening of it is unnecessary.
Changes to There Is No Umbra
None! Unless you use the version detailed below.
Changes in the
A patch that resolves story and lore conflicts between the mod There Is No Umbra and the Creation Club's Umbra, preserving the spirit of both. For players who use both and want a cohesive narrative.
✨ Key Features
📊 Pros & Cons
✅ Pros
- Community-approved with 810 endorsements.
- High download count (531,955) shows real demand.
- Fills a specific niche for lore-focused players.
⚠️ Cons
- Last updated in May 2023 — may be outdated for current game versions.
- Requires both There Is No Umbra and the Creation Club Umbra to be useful.
For Skyrim players who run both There Is No Umbra and the Creation Club's Umbra and care about story consistency. Skip if you only use one of them or don't mind lore conflicts.
💡 Beginner Tips
- Ensure you have both There Is No Umbra and the Creation Club Umbra installed before adding this patch.
- Load this patch after both source mods in your load order.
- Check the mod page for any specific load order instructions from the author.
📊 Mod Details
- Game
- Skyrim Mods
- Author
- TheShiningAbsol
- Version
- 1.0
- Downloads
- 531,955
- Endorsements
- 810
- Category
- Quests and Adventures
- Created
- 6/12/2022
- Updated
- 5/11/2023
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