Thieves Guild Dialogue Fix - USSEP Compatible
⚪ Last updated 2023⚠️ Install Order · 6 steps
Install in this order, then this mod last — most mods fail to load without their framework and dependencies in place.
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🔍 Analysis
- 👍 0.4% endorsement rate
- 🏆 #6 of 11 Guilds/Factions mods in this game by downloads
📋 About This Mod
In the spring of 2020 there was a reddit thread and a mod release about a certain... questionable design choice regarding the dialogue of the various Thieves Guild members. In short the system was setup so that the members would treat you as the new kid before you start the Goldenglow quest, and immediately afterwards they would spill their life stories at you, so essentially the less familiar dialogue was practically not seen at all. This mod changes that so the members will keep giving you evasive remarks all the way to the start of Trinity Restored, at which point the more familiar dialogue will become available.
Here's the original mod
And here's the reddit thread where this was originally discussed
The original mod was incompatible with some USSEP changes to Trinity Restored. This mod is otherwise identical to the original, but the USSEP changes have been incorporated. However it should be fine to use without USSEP too. The plugin is ESL flagged.
I think there are USSEP compatible Thieves Guild related mods that incorporate this fix, but I haven't come across one that has just this and nothing else.
Installation:
Can be installed on an ongoing save as long as you haven't started Meet the Family yet.
If you are past Goldenglow but haven't reached Trinity Restored, you can still install this mod and run this console command:
set TGtalkgate to 0
Compatibility:
Incompatible with mods that edit the quests TG02B (Meet the Family, misc objectives) and TG08A (Trinity Restored).
USSEP team lists this mod as being made obsolete by USSEP, however this is not true. USSEP moves the dialogue trigger to the end of Meet the Family, meaning after you have talked to Delvin, Vex and Tonilia for their introductions. This mod moves the trigger to the start of Trinity Restored instead. It's up to you which implementation you prefer. This mod will override USSEP's change if both are used.
Credits:
Towerxvii for Thieves Guild Dialogue Fix 0. 2
Unofficial Patch Project Team for USSEP
This mod fixes the Thieves Guild dialogue system in Skyrim, preventing members from revealing their life stories immediately upon meeting the player. It is compatible with the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch (USSEP), making it a must-have for players who want more natural pacing in guild interactions. With 877 endorsements and frequent updates, it's a reliable quality-of-life improvement.
✨ Key Features
📊 Pros & Cons
✅ Pros
- Community-approved with 877 endorsements and nearly 200k downloads—this fix is trusted.
- Directly addresses a common annoyance: NPCs oversharing too early in the Thieves Guild questline.
- USSEP compatibility means it won't conflict with the most widely used patch mod.
⚠️ Cons
- Only affects dialogue pacing, not other Thieves Guild bugs or content.
- Requires USSEP, so if you don't use that patch, this mod won't work for you.
- Compatibility with other dialogue overhaul mods is unverified—could conflict with mods that alter the same dialogue.
For Skyrim players who are tired of Thieves Guild members dumping their entire backstory on you five minutes after meeting. If you use USSEP and want a more natural dialogue flow, this is a no-brainer. Skip if you don't care about dialogue pacing or if you don't use USSEP.
💡 Beginner Tips
- Make sure you have USSEP installed before adding this mod, or it won't work.
- Load this mod after USSEP in your load order to ensure compatibility.
- If you use other dialogue mods, test early in the Thieves Guild questline to check for conflicts.
📊 Mod Details
- Game
- Skyrim Mods
- Author
- Blackread
- Version
- 1.0.1
- Downloads
- 195,181
- Endorsements
- 877
- Category
- Guilds/Factions
- Created
- 8/22/2022
- Updated
- 4/2/2023
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