No to Nocturnal

⭐ ⭐⭐ (2,324 endorsements) 📥 114,207 downloads 📌 v1.0 📅 8/10/2017
⚪ Last updated 2017

By Soupdragon · Quests and Adventures

⬇ Download Mod Source: Nexus Mods ↗ 📅 Updated: 8/10/2017 📅 Created: 8/10/2017
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🔍 Analysis

  • 👍 2.0% endorsement rate — high engagement, a strong quality signal
  • 🏆 #29 of 55 Quests and Adventures mods in this game by downloads

📋 About This Mod

Say No to Nocturnal's Oath

A simple mod to avoid Nocturnal's deathly embrace of your soul.

Annoyed that you have to take Nocturnal's Oath and sell your soul to a Daedra in order to complete all of the prerequisites for becoming Guild Master?

Feel frustrated that you have no alternative to giving your soul away to dwell in the Evergloam forever just to defeat Mercer?

Do you hate being railroaded into something because Bethesda doesn't give you choice other than do-as-you're-told or don't complete the game, ever?

Ever feel like backing out of a quest because it doesn't suit your character is really not a choice at all?

What this mod does

Gives you the choice to refuse the Oath in which case Karliah will perform the deed instead.

Or you can continue as normal as per vanilla. The only difference is you now have a choice: no more railroading.

(Karliah will return the Skeleton Key instead if you refuse)

Is it worth it for me?

Pro's: you keep your soul primarily. Nocturnal be damned.

And you can still become Guild Master.

You can keep the key for while if you desire,

just like vanilla: you'll just have to avoid Karliah for a bit.

You get given the Bow later after Karliah has returned the key:

(Karliah will gift it to you since it seems to be her personal possession)

Con's: You have to return the Nightingale Armour

(you're not a Nightingale so it why should Nocturnal let you keep it?)

You also don't get the Nightingale Perks. For the same reason.

There will also be no Nocturnal shrine in the TG Cistern.

You don't get access to Twilight Sepulcher.

Them's the breaks.

So how does it work? What happens instead?

You now have the option to refuse to take Nocturnal's Oath before before entering the chamber.

You then return your Nightingale armour (Brynjolf too since it seems like his heart isn't in it either)

Travel to Irkngthand to take on Mercer Frey just like normal.

After you've escaped Karliah will tell you she'll return the key instead and head off.

After a suitable amount of time (24 hours) Karliah will return to speak to you stating

she's returned the key. She'll also gift you her bow as a thank you.

(You've got to have some reward for helping her avenge the murder of her lover, right?)

Congratulations. You

🤖 AI-enhanced — based on mod data

No to Nocturnal lets Skyrim players refuse Nocturnal's oath during the Thieves Guild questline while still completing the quests and becoming Guild Leader. This quest alteration mod has 2,324 endorsements and was last updated in August 2017.

✨ Key Features

Allows players to refuse Nocturnal's oath during the Thieves Guild questline.
Still enables completion of the Thieves Guild quests and becoming Guild Leader.
Alters the quest progression to accommodate the refusal.

📊 Pros & Cons

✅ Pros

  • Community favorite with 2,324 endorsements and over 114k downloads.
  • Opens up a new roleplay path for stealth characters who don't want to serve a Daedric Prince.
  • Simple concept that directly addresses a common complaint about the Thieves Guild questline.

⚠️ Cons

  • Last updated in 2017, so it may not be compatible with the latest Skyrim versions or mods.
  • Potential conflicts with other Thieves Guild quest overhaul mods.
  • Limited to a single quest decision, so it won't add new content beyond that choice.
🎯 Is This For You?
For Skyrim players who want more roleplay freedom in the Thieves Guild questline and dislike being forced to swear an oath to Nocturnal. Also for those who have played through the guild multiple times and want a different narrative path. Skip if you're fine with the original quest or want more extensive quest changes.
📦 Install:Easy· Under 1 minute

💡 Beginner Tips

  • Make sure to load this mod after any other Thieves Guild quest mods to avoid conflicts.
  • If you're using a mod manager, let it handle the file placement to keep your load order clean.
  • Consider using a save before the oath scene to test the mod without restarting your playthrough.

📊 Mod Details

Game
Skyrim Mods
Author
Soupdragon
Version
1.0
Downloads
114,207
Endorsements
2,324
Category
Quests and Adventures
Created
8/10/2017
Updated
8/10/2017

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