Harder Barter - Expensive Prices
⚪ Last updated 2024⚠️ Install Order · 2 steps
Install in this order, then this mod last — most mods fail to load without their framework and dependencies in place.
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🔍 Analysis
- 👍 0.2% endorsement rate
- 🏆 #124 of 193 Gameplay mods in this game by downloads
📋 About This Mod
Introduction:
Bethesda games in general tend to give way too much money in my opinion, rewards are plentiful, prices are low, everyone's happy, right? Well, I'm not, I like the challenge of not having money all the time to afford everything that I want, I like perks like Cap Collector and Fortune Finder having longer lasting impact in my game, and I like feeling like I earned my inventory, either by exploring, killing, or paying for it. What good is it Cap Collector if I'm getting better prices but I'm swimming in caps already to a point that even without that perk everything is affordable? What good is Fortune Finder if I'm finding a few extra caps here and there if they mean squat when I get them because I was already rich?
I play with mods like Loot Balance which make the Wasteland loot feel scarcer, every stimpak I find is pure gold and any amount of ammo is welcomed, but all of a sudden I go to a Vendor and the prices don't reflect a world in which goods are a comodity. Making the decision of buying that extra clip of ammo or buying some RadAway should be important, but it doesn't feel like that because of the amount of caps we get and the prices vendors have (and to a certain extent because of their inventories as well, but I kind of like traders having good things and charging an arm and a leg for them, if you want them... then empty your pockets vault dweller). Obviously this mod won't be for everyone, but if you are like me and enjoy the challenge of a harder game economy, you might find it useful.
I had been looking for a mod that just tweaks the game economy globally, without being part of a huge overhaul mod that does 20 other things that I'm not interested in, but the few I found either didn't offer any information as to how exactly their changes worked (most seemed to tweak fBarterMax, fBarterMin, fBarterBuyMax and fBarterSellMax settings without explaining why or how), or the little information they did offer wasn't enough for me to fully understand their impact on the game prices to make an informed decision on which one to install. I just wanted one simple mod to change the economy and nothing else and I couldn't find one to my liking so I made this one. :)
I actually tried to make a mod like this a couple of years ago but back then I didn't quite understand exactly how Fallout 4 calculates prices and I guess this time I put in the time to learn that. The Fallout 4 wiki has some info and one formula to calculate buying or selling price modifiers (but not final prices) but it's not very clear other than to understand that yes, CHARISMA plays a role on prices, and the higher your CHA the better prices you'll get basically.
I ended up having to sit down and break the few formulas I found online down to get to the bottom of those settings, and I ended up rewri
Harder Barter - Expensive Prices is a compact gameplay mod by Kevkas that globally increases vendor prices and adjusts barter limits at maximum Charisma. It offers multiple options for price scaling, making trading more challenging. With 70 endorsements and over 30,000 downloads, it's a niche but popular choice for players seeking a tougher economy.
✨ Key Features
📊 Pros & Cons
✅ Pros
- Solid download-to-endorsement ratio (30k downloads, 70 endorsements) shows it's being used
- ESL-flagged means it won't eat your load order slots
- Multiple options let you dial in the difficulty you want
⚠️ Cons
- Only 70 endorsements — not a lot of community feedback
- Last updated May 2024 — might not be compatible with the latest game patches
For Fallout 4 players who find the vanilla economy too forgiving and want a tougher barter experience. If you're a survival-mode enthusiast or roleplayer who wants prices to actually hurt, this is for you. Skip if you prefer a more casual, loot-friendly playthrough.
💡 Beginner Tips
- Since it's ESL-flagged, you can safely place it anywhere in your load order, but putting it near the bottom ensures it overrides other economy mods.
- If you use a mod manager like Vortex or MO2, just download and enable — no manual file placement needed.
- Test the price changes early in a new playthrough to see if the increase feels right for your difficulty preference.
📊 Mod Details
- Game
- Fallout 4 Mods
- Author
- Kevkas
- Version
- 1.0
- Downloads
- 30,637
- Endorsements
- 70
- Category
- Gameplay
- Created
- 5/8/2024
- Updated
- 5/8/2024
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